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Post by jackmarc on Nov 11, 2007 13:11:02 GMT -5
Desperate times calls for desperate measures. Thats the feeling I'm getting by the postings. We need to face the facts.
If someone does not care about the welfare of any organization they most likely won't participate in any or many things.
There is nothing wrong with encouraging some one to volunteer but in the end it's their choice. There will always be some that do more and others less. But whatever they do I hope it's in the interest of the club members. If you see a need and have it in your heart and time to help then do it because you want too and because that's just who you are, and some of that may rub-off on others. If I may use student training as an example we had a great commitment week by week by the students and instructors and the whole thing was a success for the individuals and the club. The students were eager to fly and the instructors to teach as well. A lot of good seeds and friendships were planted. That's what a club should be about. I think we should all stick together and do the best that we can for the organization.
Jack
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Post by robweiss on Nov 11, 2007 15:01:20 GMT -5
Well said Jack.
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Post by admin on Nov 12, 2007 19:21:17 GMT -5
OK I am sorry but I was not blaming the students or the Instructors for the cancellation of the event. It was brought up however last year at that field meeting that two day events do cut into instruction time as it uses up a Saturday. I dd not mean to imply that was the sole reason for not supporting an IMAC contest. Yes last year things fell apart at the last second and I respect the not wanting two events in a row and the CLUB elected not to reschedule, so now lets look to 2008. An IMAC contest does not require support from the club in terms of actual member or bodies present to help run the contest. All of our IMAC contests in Ontario are Competitor run. We use the competitors to help run the contest. The only human resources we use from the club are for the food concession stand and this generates income for the club. I would love to see some club members come out and get involved or even spectate but as we know we can not force anyone to do anything. I would resist the "make students come out and help" idea I would however encourage them to drop by and see what is going on because as Rob suggested they would have been out on Saturday morning anyways. Nick I apologize for my paraphrasing your statements and will make every attempt to record more precise statements but my shorthand sucks. Nick, thank for responding to my email concerning possible dates. I was planning on bringing this up at the meeting last Wednesday and plan to at the next one but I would like to try and get a general feeling from the membership before hand. If it is still the feeling of the club that they do not wish to continue with this activity, so be it. I will respect the wishes of the membership.
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Post by admin on Dec 20, 2007 21:36:02 GMT -5
OK we have gotten a break on dates.
The Bellville Contest scheduled for 19/20 July 2008 has been cancelled.
If it is OK with everyone I would like to hold our contest on those dates. I have asked Joe Bajkor when the Heli Fun-Fly is going to be but they have not decided yet. Last year it was June 23rd so if it is around the same time again this year then there is a full month between the two events so we should not have a problem.
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Post by Keede on Dec 21, 2007 10:15:25 GMT -5
Sounds Great! Lots of time for practice!!
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Post by johnm on Dec 26, 2007 19:07:43 GMT -5
Gentlemen: I retired from Club Management 4 years ago satisfied that I had done the best that I could and a rest from it would be good. The arguments and solutions contained in the above replies to the possibility of holding an event at the Club's field/venue are nothing new and are dealt with annually by most clubs regardless of which hobby/sport they represent. Believe it or not, in my opinion, it is healthy for a club to have these kinds of debates. Good luck with finding solutions - in the meantime, always remember that:"it is only a club" and do not take yourselves too seriously. . . Happy New Year - John Mickle
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Post by johnm on Dec 26, 2007 19:20:56 GMT -5
Me again: I should have added to remember that you only get out of any club/organization/association what you put into it. We all know that those who help out and serve on committees or organize events, etc. get the most out of their club. It just makes sense. . . Cheers again and thanks for reading this. . . John Mickle
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Post by Gary Maker on May 2, 2008 17:31:29 GMT -5
I'm not sure if this issue has been resolved as yet. I personally haven't heard anything to the contrairy so I hope I am not out of line keying in here:
I know I haven't been around for awhile due to health reasons but the main reason I joined the Flying Tiger's club was because of this club's participation in IMAC.
During the time I was able to be active, and I hope I am able to do so again now that I have my health issues under control, I did what I could to support the club and its activities.
I had a stint at being the Chief Flying Instructor and helped in the running of the annual swap meet. I was also there for the funflys helping where I could there. And I have been to every IMAC event held by the club and not only participated as a contestant but again helped out with the running of the event.
As Jim has said earlier, I will definitely be at the 2008 event should it be allowed by the club, and will help Jim in what ever capacity he needs me, be it Co CD or otherwise.
IMAC is one of my main passions in RC and to me personally it would be very disappointing should this event continue to be disallowed by our club.
As I see in the posts, others have come forward saying they would support this contest. I don't know what other members will participate as far as contestants but to me there seems to be more than just a little support for this contest.
JUST A THOUGHT. The summer days are considerably longer than normal. The Saturday of the contest usually runs until about 4 PM or 5 PM at the latest. This would still leave at least 4 hour of open flying for the day to take place for other club members.
Sunday, the contest is usually completed by about 3 PM leaving even more time for open flying for the club members who wish to do so. So its not a complete bust for the club members who wish to get some flying in on that weekend even if a contest should be held.
Perhaps for that weekend some time could be scheduled for the students on the Saturday or the Sunday EVENING so they don't loose out on their weekly instruction. All it would take is some willingness to juggle their schedule a bit and a pinch of co-operation so that all can enjoy their time of field activity. Just a thought but worthy of consideration I would think.
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Post by robweiss on May 2, 2008 20:02:22 GMT -5
Gary: There was a lot of discussion at meetings about running an IMAC event at our club and it was generally well received and supported by members. The main issue was not against IMAC specifically but more the fact that because flight instruction is held on Saturdays the student fliers would lose out a lot of instruction time every time there was an event held on a Saturday. It was also felt that changing the instruction schedule would /could cause a problem for instructors and students in terms of personal schedule ( shift workers etc.) . Having said that, there has been a date set for the competition at our club for July 19 & 20.
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Post by terry on May 3, 2008 20:40:35 GMT -5
Gary .... IMAC date has been posted on our HOME page for some time now as well as on IMACs Home page .
The main and only reason IMAC was canceled was due to lack of club participation NO ONE from OUR CLUB was participating in any manner at the time . I don,t know why you would want to bring this up again after reading all the posts Don't be so selfish to think your event is the only event . The little bit of participation you say is required by the students and instructors applies to Imac , Heli , Soma , and possibly an electric event , I can see how thats not much at all seeing as we all have nothing else to do with our lives . I only speak for the students in this case as instruction time comes at a premium with TWO instructors doing the majority of the work . I can fly Imac , Heli , Electric , gas or glow so I never loose any flying time .
As a matter of fact I think I will stick with that and Formerly step down as A Flying Instructor that should please a couple of people. I'm tired of this BULL
CHEERS
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